Bangalore: The following is an interview of V.T. Rajshekar by a lady correspondent of the Statesman, Delhi, published in its issue of April 9, 1978 — when he was in the Indian Express, Bangalore, and three years before starting Dalit Voice.
The Statesman was then considered India’s most prestigious English daily started by the British and later purchased by the Tatas. The daily died in Delhi and its Calcutta edition is dying.
The interview shows the gradual evolution of the thoughts of the Editor from “class struggle” to “caste struggle”. The Editor was originally a marxist. The first edition of his book, How Marx Failed in Hindu India, was also published in 1978.
Jews & the “Jews of India”: The upper castes led by the Brahmins were the first to capture the marxist parties at the instance of the Jews, who founded marxism to destroy Christianity. Lenin, a Jew, who led the Russian revolution, invited the Bengali Brahmin M.N. Roy to Moscow, trained him and taught him how the “Jews of India” could capture India by enslaving the Bahujans. M.N. Roy followed the instructions of his blood brother Jew and the result is Bengal and Kerala permanently came under Manuwadi marxists.
Brahmins used to love VTR when he was with the marxists. Both the CPI and CPM leadership courted him. Short of joining the CPM, he was a regular visitor to the party office.
This is yet another proof that Jews and “Jews of India” are cousins and the world’s two most famous conspirators.
“Class struggle kills” caste war: It is the “Jews of India” who managed to divide the Bahujan Samaj by clamping the caste system.
The Brahminical enemy feared that the angry, oppressed and also ferocious Bahujans (85%) would launch a “caste war” and crush the micro-minority puny creatures. That is why they thoughtfully popularised the “class struggle” theory to divert our attention from “caste war”.
The Statesman interview was published under the following title:
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“In the vanguard of caste war”
“We don’t use the word Harijan, we say Untouchable. We don’t believe in the Gandhian approach to the caste problem. His approach is based on compromise; we believe in seizing things. Some people believe that Gandhi was the saviour of the Harijans, we believe that he has done more damage than good — the Untouchable community, thanks to him, has been reduced to the status of beggars”.
This is the Voice of the Dalit Movement in Karnataka as expressed to me by Mr V.T. Rajshekar Shetty who came armed with a letter from the Dalit Action Committee recommending him as a Dalit writer and a man intimately acquainted with the problems of the Untouchables. He is a thin, nondescript man with greying oily hair who, despite his revolutionary rhetoric, I could hardly imagine to be in the vanguard of an armed revolution. There had been no change, he said categorically, in the position of the Untouchables. In cities they lived in slums and in the villages they lived in ghettos. 95% of them are still landless labourers who could barely make enough money to stay alive.
Hinduism is Untouchability
The Dalit Action Committee in Karnataka is trying to make Untouchables aware of the reality of their position, to educate them in the teachings of Dr. Ambedkar and to make them see that “bloody revolution” is the only way that their lot will improve, because the caste system was as entrenched in India as the Hindu religion. “As long as there is Hinduism there will be untouchability”.
The Dalit philosophy, Mr. Shetty said, was a combination of Marx and Ambedkar; but although “we are close to the CPI(M)”, there was a fundamental disagreement, because the Marxists talked only of “class struggle” and not of “caste struggle”. If there was ever to be a revolution in India, the caste factor was vital.
PERMANENT BEGGARS
Mr. Shetty rejected reservation of jobs and opportunities as a means of removing untouchability. “It is a way of making Untouchables permanent beggers”. He also rejected Mr.Jagjivan Ram as an important national leader. “Everyone knows that Gandhi and Nehru discovered him to counteract Dr. Ambedkar”.
Since we were in the mood to call a spade a spade, I asked him if he was an Untouchable. “No”, he said hastily, “I come from a landed family, I am a sudra”. Were sudras not untouchables? “No, no, those are mahasudras”.
(Statesman, 9/4/1978).
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